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Jawwagner

Posts: 31 Join date: 2008-08-06
 | Subject: Tournament to become a Lord Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:05 pm | |
| I have a idea and need to know if anyone is intrested. I am working at getting another city in, and it will be ocuppied and will need liberated. To do this King John will need to appoint a Lord to liberate and rule it. To choose a Lord, King John will hold tournaments (every sunday) and the champion of the Tornament will be given a writ of nobility and with it the ability to recruit knights (all others who took part in the tournaments) to help Liberate the new city. OK now to be eligable for the Tournament you must make a new toon and he must only be used for the tournaments and RP, because the Champion will be determined by the first Knight to hit level 5 . He may not craft or adventure till the tournament is over. Requirments 1. Paliden (must remain Strait Pally) 2. MUST be Male ( Taveren wench's need not apply) 3. May be Any Race 4. 1st level and Never adventured I will supply Jousting Horse's and Armor for the Knights who particpate. The players who get knighted will be able to have a Squir (henchman) I am still working this out and thinking up ideas, If you are intrested please post and let me know. I need to know if anyone is intrested. |
|  | | Wulf
Posts: 3 Join date: 2008-09-03
 | Subject: I'm interested. Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:44 pm | |
| I'm interested but I don't want two Pallys. Could I delevel Mykell? I don't mind Going straight Pally. |
|  | | Zelknolf
Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-08-06
 | Subject: Re: Tournament to become a Lord Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:46 am | |
| | Jawwagner wrote: | | 2. MUST be Male ( Taveren wench's need not apply) |
I want the option to make a female knight masquerading. A Maximilian harness would easily conceal all sex traits, and enforcing this idea OOC is just going to drive players away (at least one - I gotta say, though, dumping sexism into the only posted DM event is the fastest way to corrupt an otherwise interesting fantasy world. I doubt I'm the only one who thinks as much.) |
|  | | Jawwagner

Posts: 31 Join date: 2008-08-06
 | Subject: Re: Tournament to become a Lord Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:36 pm | |
| To participate in the Tournament you MUST meet my requirments, but the RP event is open to all, Every char can show up and RP , they just cant join the jousts or combat part of it. Not all events will be restricted but some will be, either by Class, Gender, Race, Level, ect. This is NOT ment to offend anyone. But I will never Let anyone with DEV Critt in any of my events. You may take it, but I will not allow you to participate in my events ( unless they are Strict RP ) |
|  | | Zelknolf
Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-08-06
 | Subject: Re: Tournament to become a Lord Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:35 pm | |
| A simple response: why? If you're looking for historicism, the faiths, armaments, and organization of the world are pooched. If you're looking for simulationism, your entire crafting system is pooched. All this is doing is stating - OOC, as you've just stated the requirement as a DM, not presented forces within the game world - that women are incapable of being leaders, complete with the derisive use of "wenches" in the original post. This is offensive and abusive toward your female players, whether or not you mean it to be. |
|  | | Payne777 Admin
Posts: 19 Join date: 2008-08-06 Age: 35
 | Subject: my 2 cents Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:54 pm | |
| As I understand it, the tournament was designed to raise a player charactor to the level of a noble. The head DM set down his criteria, as it is his event, an event that he is writting scripts, layind down new areas, and all the other associated tasks involved. The comment set down referring to wenches, I assure you, was not meant to belittle women, but as a joking reference. As I am the administrator of this forum, and hence this is in essence my world. I apologize to you personally if you were offended. However, I do feel a need to point out that the DM at no time said that women cannot hold positions of power. Only that in this specific instance only male charactors will be allowed. I am sure that as time goes by, female charactors will be able to hold offices, and land, and even potentially rule over a city. If I seem offensive at all, please forgive me. I am not taking a side so to speak, but instead attempting to moderate a misunderstanding. As for the event itself, as I understand it the criteria have not changed. If you are interested in this event still, then feel free to join in, as personally I think it's a great idea. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. |
|  | | Zelknolf
Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-08-06
 | Subject: Re: Tournament to become a Lord Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:54 pm | |
| I'm not offended by the idea that a game world is placing such restrictions; that's fiction - stuff happens in fiction that's absolutely horrible in real life, but we accept it for its narrative value. That's all cool and fine and dandy, and for me to argue against the enforcement of such a status quo by the fictional characters would mean that I would have to be opposed to some great literature (most of Mark Twain, for instance, and he's the best and most philosophical example of Regionalist writing post-Civil-War.) My problem and my being offended is in the restrictions placed by the DM, without rationale, based on sex. The post doesn't say that the king declared women to be ineligible to compete; the DM has declared that he won't accomodate women. Sure, it's a small server, and I can understand that more areas would go far to improve it and I understand the connection between the DM's effort and said DM's freedom to run the adventure, but I think that a response is merited when said freedom starts being used unethically, as I believe this restriction is. I would point out, of course, that there were lady knights in Western Europe during the 100 years war (correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks like the technology level we're gunnin' for here, and the very real presence of foreign invasion kinda puts Thel in France's shoes), the most famous of whom - Joan d'Arc - is a bloody saint, and that contrary to popular belief, she did so with the blessings of her king, her church, and her fellow officers (gained from 1428-1429, formally documented and used in her defense at her eventual trial)... at least until they started thinking her attacks were reckless. But then it wasn't "She can't lead troops because she's female," it was "She makes risky and ungaingly attacks, while French strategy is traditionally to take the conservative route and to fight defensively." Granted, the English had her executed for heresy, specifically charged with crossdressing, but it doesn't take a historian to tell you that the English were humiliated by repeated defeats at the hands of smaller forces and that they wanted revenge. Doesn't stop historians from saying so, of course, but I'm gonna hope you let me get away without a citation on that one.  |
|  | | Jawwagner

Posts: 31 Join date: 2008-08-06
 | Subject: Re: Tournament to become a Lord Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:18 pm | |
| This event is Canceled it is not worth the trouble or aggravation. |
|  | | Fae
Posts: 1 Join date: 2008-10-20
 | Subject: Re: Tournament to become a Lord Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:25 am | |
| I'm all for it being male only (This is coming from a female.) I'm also all for a female masquerading as a male, (Although they should have a considerably high bluff check.) Another thing.. why does this Lord have to be a Paladin? Can it not be a corrupt Blackguard that is masquerading as a Paladin in order to gain a seat of power? |
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